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Welcome to the new Complete Monster (CM) cleanup thread! This thread is where we clean up or cut already-existing entries.

If you're looking to add new entries, please see the approval thread.

IMPORTANT: Before you begin any discussions on this thread, please see the Frequently Asked Questions and Common Requests List. Here, you'll find explanations of the criteria for the trope as well as our rules/procedures for approving and cutting candidates.

What goes through this thread?

    Examples 
  • Cut requests. If you believe a CM has been approved and they do not count, this thread is where you propose their removal. To know how to go about this, please see the FAQ folder on the Administrivia page, where the process is explained in detail.
  • If we ever need to consider cutting multiple examples without individually reviewing them (e.g. if we discover widespread plagiarism with a particular troper's CMs), the initial discussion will be on this thread and we'll then escalate to the mod team (as described here) to get a formal consensus if we decide to recommend a mass cut.
  • If an entry was put on the wrong subpage/YMMV page, you may propose where they should be moved to.
  • Full rewrites of existing entries, including expansions, trims, and ground-up rewrites. If your rewrite is approved by the thread, feel free to add it to the drafts page so that other users can check grammar and the like before it is included with the rest of the weekly swaps.
  • If an entry on a work's YMMV page doesn't match the entry on the media subpage, you can bring it here to discuss which entry works better.

What does not go through this thread?

    Examples 
  • New candidate proposals - as stated before, those are done on this thread.
  • Unapproved wicks - if a Troper encounters either of these kinds of wicks, they can be cut with no approval.
    • Any CM link on a non-YMMV page - as a YMMV trope, it should not be linked on those pages regardless of any cleanup effort. The only exception is if the wick is being used within the definition of another trope.
    • If an CM link on a YMMV page refers to an unapproved character. If it refers to an approved character on any such page, the wick can stay. On the other hand, if the unapproved character being linked to sounds like they might have promise (and you don't feel like checking it out for yourself), feel free to mention it on the approval thread - someone may already know why they don't count, or it could invite a brand new discussion!
  • Proposals for images, quotes, and videos of already-approved CMs - quotes and images are proposed on the approval thread, while videos can be uploaded normally as they are screened for approval by the moderation.
  • Crosswicking examples to YMMV pages - if an example has already been approved and added to the main page, you do not require any special permission to add the example to a work's YMMV page (assuming the work has a page already). If a YMMV page doesn't exist yet, then you can make it yourself, but either way, feel free to just add the example without asking.
  • Small changes to existing entries - these can simply be done on a Troper's own prerogative with no approval.
    • Spelling and grammar fixes.
    • Pothole changes.
    • Minor rewordings.
    • Spoiler tags.

While these changes do not require any kind of approval, it is requested that should you make any of these changes, you do one of the following:

  1. Make the same changes on the relevant Sandbox page, then add the Sandbox to the list at the bottom of the drafts page. This will add the Sandbox to the weekly swaps and ensure that the edits end up on the relevant locked page. If the Sandbox is already listed, then once you make the edits, your job is already done!
  2. If you don't know how the Sandboxes work or simply don't have the time to find it, then you can simply post on the thread about the changes you made. Someone else can then make the edit on the relevant Sandbox and add it to the weekly swaps.
  3. Alternatively, you can simply request that the change be made directly to the locked page on the Locked Pages thread. Members of this thread keep track of that one, so we will ensure that the changes are made in the Sandbox so that it doesn't get deleted during the next swap.

Again, these changes don't require any approval, but we prefer to keep the entries on the YMMV pages and the locked pages the same in order to avoid any miscommunication or errors between entries, so if you do make the change, we would greatly appreciate it if you could ensure the change is made on the locked page as well.

As a final note, we do not care what other sites have to say regarding whether or not a character counts. We have our own criteria and they have theirs for their CM equivalents; while they are similar, they are not exactly the same and should not be treated as such. Another site removing a character from their equivalent should not be a reason why a cut is proposed here, and if this is the case, it will likely lead to mod intervention.

Other than this, once again, welcome to the cleanup thread, and we look forward to your contributions!


Edited by Mrph1 on Jan 14th 2024 at 11:30:03 AM

ACW Unofficial Wiki Curator for Complete Monster from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#13701: May 4th 2024 at 12:29:48 PM

Oh, it can stay, but it probably needs to be rearranged.

FWIW, NONE of the TV shows are mentioned here, EXCEPT for What If.

CM Dates; CM Pending; CM Drafts
Bullman "Cool. Coolcoolcool." Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
"Cool. Coolcoolcool."
#13702: May 4th 2024 at 1:14:43 PM

[up][up] I am not saying remove AOS, but rather just reorganize it a bit.

[up]My suggestion is to collect those that are part of the sacred timeline and list them together and then list the rest under the multiverse.

Edited by Bullman on May 4th 2024 at 3:15:16 AM

Fan-Preferred Couple cleanup thread
LarryMullen Since: May, 2015
#13703: May 4th 2024 at 4:23:57 PM

I have another potential cut that I expect will be controversial: Charles Lee Ray aka Chucky from the Child's Play franchise.

It's true that he's a horrific killer with an ever-increasing body count. But when asked if he's ok with having a genderfluid child, he says he is because he's "not a monster". And in the most recent episode of Chucky, he says that he misses them. Plus he once killed a character who sexually assaulted a woman while she was hypnotized, saying "And they call me sick", which implies there are some lines even he won't cross.

So is he a CM or is he worthy of reconsideration?

Bullman "Cool. Coolcoolcool." Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
"Cool. Coolcoolcool."
#13704: May 4th 2024 at 4:30:26 PM

[up] Since the latest episode of the show was released literally only a couple of days ago, I think it would be best to wait until the two weeks are up.

Also doesn't he try to kill said child like without a care.

The last point has been discussed before and deemed not redeeming.

Either way I think it is best to wait.

Edited by Bullman on May 4th 2024 at 6:32:18 AM

Fan-Preferred Couple cleanup thread
LarryMullen Since: May, 2015
#13705: May 4th 2024 at 4:35:31 PM

[up] OK, I can certainly wait.

AustinDR Lizzid people! (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Lizzid people!
#13706: May 4th 2024 at 4:40:53 PM

Uh... the complete context behind the guy he killed was he did not know whether he should be sick or take notes. Plus him kidnapping Nica's mother is not winning him favors.

That and the gender fluid thing was him manipulating Jake into killing for him and he later dismissively calls Jake's relationship with Devon "so gay."

Edited by AustinDR on May 4th 2024 at 4:56:09 AM

LarryMullen Since: May, 2015
#13707: May 4th 2024 at 6:37:11 PM

[up] All right, he can stay then.

ACW Unofficial Wiki Curator for Complete Monster from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#13708: May 5th 2024 at 9:21:11 AM

  • NYPD Blue
  • SPY×FAMILY CODE: White: Colonel Snidel is a high-ranking member of the Ostania military intelligence who seeks a microfilm to accelerate the potential war between the East and West countries. Using fear to control his soldiers, even making a point to kill every spy he comes across, Snidel, when he finds out that Anya accidentally swallowed the microfilm needed for his upcoming attack, threatens to disembowel her to acquire it, much to the horror of his own lackeys.
  • Unicorn Wars: Colonel Otto is the supreme commander of the bear military and the main perpetrator of the violent war between bears and unicorns, with which he seeks to expand his rule over the forest by wiping out the unicorns. Viewing other bears as beneath him, Otto trains the soldiers under his rule to become violent and ruthless, treating any kindness or companionship as useless, treating any freak injuries as acceptable "collateral damage" and sending out those who are deemed too weak to die in pointless missions in enemy territory in addition to keeping his troops in miserable conditions while he and his inner circle enjoy a life of luxury. Promoting Bluey to the figurehead of the army when he survives his squadron's near-complete wipeout for the sake of propaganda, Otto spurs his worst tendencies and only opposes Bluey's final plan to burn down the forest in its entirety because it would deprive him of the war with which to control the bear populace.
  • Kill Your Darlings, written by Ethan S. Parker & Griffin Sheridan: The Great and Terrible Evil is an abomination summoned by Eleanor to get revenge for the death of her grandson. It possesses infant Rose and finds its way to her imaginary world, where it razes the kingdom of Rosewood, possessing Rose and using her to burn her mother alive. The Evil continues to terrorise Rose's world, killing its inhabitants and filling its cave with corpses while slowly killing the world by draining its life force. When now teenage Rose and her friend Elliott are brought to Rosewood to fight it, The Evil takes control of Elliott's body, keeping him aware of everything while resurrecting its victims as zombies to attack Rose and and taunting her with visions of her mother. It uses Rose to find a portal to Earth and massacre the people inside the video store, initially planning to make that world its new playground until Eleanor appears and has it bring her to Rosewood. The Evil assists Eleanor to take control of Rosewood and lays waste to the village where the survivors of its rampage were hiding. Hunting Rose and her friends for years, The Evil is eventually empowered by Eleanor to completely destroy Rosewood. When Eleanor sees the error of her ways and stops its rampage, The Evil mocks her, saying that others of its kind will come for her and hopes to be the one to kill her.
  • "The Joining" two-parter & "Lost Heroes" two-parter: The Joining is an alien race that makes a habit of destroying planets. Setting its sights on Earth after wiping out half the galaxy's planets, the Joining proves to be far more independent than it looks when it launches a worldwide invasion by having its race attack several cities, all while bragging about its superiority. Foiled by Batman before it can launch a laser that would destroy the world, the Joining would later strike a deal with Hugo Strange to grant him knowledge of the universe if he neutralizes the Justice League, preparing to launch another global attack with nobody to stop it.
  • A Frozen Retelling of Sora's Visit (link): Larxene is the psychopathic 12th member of Organization XIII who collaborates with Prince Hans in exploiting the rift between Queen Elsa and Princess Anna, causing Elsa to create the cold winter plaguing Arendelle, while Larxene would trap Anna, along with Sora, Donald, Goofy, Kristoff, Sven, and Olaf in the Frozen Labyrinth and send Heartless and Nobodies to kill them should they not freeze to death. Larxene would then corrupt an isolated Elsa, causing Elsa to attack Anna while Larxene tries to kill Sora when he attempts to intervene. Larxene would then force Anna to watch as Hans prepares to execute Elsa while revealing her plan to use the darkness within Elsa to turn her into a weapon for Larxene to use to kill everyone within the world of Arendelle and overthrow Organization XIII; Larxene would then electrocute an already dying Anna before leaving her to die when Sora and co. arrives. When Larxene's plans for Elsa fails, she extracts the darkness within Elsa and fuses it with the darkness inside Hans to create a giant Heartless, having it battle Elsa, Sora and their allies, before attempting to kill them herself.
  • Alduin, the so-called Firstborn of Akatosh, is the World-Eater responsible for devouring Nirn so that the next iteration of the world may take its place. A capricious sadist of a god who decided he'd prefer to rule the world instead of destroying it, Alduin took over Nirn and exercised widespread cruelty until he was banished into the Fourth Era by an Elder Scroll. Deciding then to destroy the world before his allotted time out of spite, Alduin razes the entire town of Helgen to the ground and kills nearly everyone there, and resurrects many of his fellow dragons to cause further havoc across Skyrim. Alduin later deserts a battle with the Last Dragonborn to instead eat the souls of the dead in Sovngarde for a cheap power boost, an act of cowardice that earns him nothing but disgust from his dragon brethren. According to the obscure text "The Eating-Birth of Dagon", Alduin may have even been responsible for the creation of Mehrunes Dagon, Daedric Prince of Destruction, indirectly putting all the carnage Dagon is responsible for—including the Oblivion Crisis—on Alduin's head.
  • Old World Blues (Hearts of Iron IV Game Mod using Fallout setting): The Putrescent Mother was the first person to be experimented on in Oklahoma by American scientists before the Great War. Surviving their corporal death as a spirit through raw hatred and relishing in the spread of hatred and fear, the Mother would reach out to another survivor of the experiments, a young girl named V. Taking advantage of V's immortality and powers developed through these experiments, the Mother promises her power if she will create a body for her. If V does not resist the Mother's influence, she and the Psykers of the Chained Choir will subject the inhabitants of post-apocalyptic Oklahoma to either mind control, zombification, or having themselves killed and their bodies and souls stitched together to form a new body for the Mother. Those who get zombified will be sent to work as slave labour indefinitely without rest and be used as fodder for the Psykers. Once the Mother awakens in her new body, she gruesomely disposes of V and the Choir and seeks to consume the entirety of the American wasteland, and eventually humanity itself.
  • Madness Combat Fan Animation Madness: Ascend: Jebus is one of the men responsible for the state that Nevada is in. Founding the More Alive Factory alongside the Sheriff, Jebus releases "Life Smog" upon the state that mutates the populace and turns Nevada into a wasteland while he lives in luxury. When Hank Wimbleton is admiring the nature in Jebus's paradise, Jebus kills Hank by stabbing him through the head.
  • American Mary: Dr. Alan Grant and his partner Dr. Walsh are a pair of twisted and corrupt surgeons, behind their image of stern but reasonable teachers. To give a lesson about breaking bad news, Walsh has Mary falsely tell a patient's family that their father/husband has died in surgery. Later, Grant and Walsh invite Mary to a party for their clique, where the female attendees are all drugged and raped while being filmed. Grant himself rapes and films Mary, while Walsh pleasures himself over a woman being gang-raped. The assault causes Mary's own downward spiral of as her first victim is Grant himself. An investigation into their "disappearances" reveals Grant and Walsh have been regularly hosting these "sex parties" with multiple victims before Mary.
  • Civil War (2024):
    • The President is a corrupt, wannabe dictator who is the primary cause for the current war across America. A fascist who disbanded the FBI, rewrote the Constitution, and gave himself an extended third term in office, the President used devastating airstrikes and vicious protest dispersal tactics on civilians to secure his rule. Refusing to surrender his power and plunging the country into its current war-torn state by fighting the secessionist Western Forces, the President cowardly sacrifices his own men, staff, and possibly own wife as decoys when the WF lays siege to his base, and his order that all journalists be shot on sight leads to Lee being coldly gunned down by the President's Secret Service.
    • The unnamed soldier is the fanatically patriotic leader of a tiny militia who proves himself to be the worst the Civil War has to offer despite having no affiliation with either side of the conflict. Taking hostage those who pass by his base, the soldier kills people he deems non-American, dumping their bodies into a massive grave that houses the corpses of dozens, including children.
  • Paycheck: James "Jimmy" Rethrick, the seemingly friendly CEO of Allcom, hires reverse engineer Michael "Mike" Jennings to create a device to foresee events. Killing those involved after learning the device will inevitably lead to nuclear fallout when they protest, Jimmy only relents from killing Mike after learning he has deactivated the machine. Luring Mike back to Allcom, Jimmy decries Mike as a fool before setting him up to be shot to death by the FBI agents he has manipulated, intending to devastate humanity in a future he alone controls.
  • Late Night with the Devil: "Mr. Wriggles" is the nickname of the demon inhabiting the body of Lilly, a little girl who survived the mass suicide of a Satanic cult. When Lilly is brought on the late-night talk show Night Owls as a ratings stunt, "Mr. Wriggles" quickly proves that Evil Is Not a Toy, subjecting the local phony psychic Christou to a horrifying death through Mind Rape and black bile oozing out of his every orifice. Afterward, "Mr. Wriggles" possesses Lilly so he can mock the host of Night Owls, Jack Delroy, over the death of his cancer-ridden wife. The history between Jack and "Mr. Wriggles" is darker and deeper than it initially appears; as part of a nebulous deal with the demon made for the sake of his career, "Mr. Wriggles" gave Jack's innocent wife terminal cancer. In the climax, "Mr. Wriggles" fully takes over Lilly and gruesomely massacres the remaining guests and staff, saving one particularly horrible death for an arrogant skeptic who tries to pledge himself to the demon as soon as he sees irrefutable proof of its existence. Finally, the demon tricks Jack into stabbing Lilly to death on live TV, giving him the "fame" he so desperately coveted.
  • Sanctimony (2000): Tom Turner is a successful stock trader who moonlights as the Theme Serial Killer known as the Monkey Maker. Killing his victims in sets of 6 and removing a specific facial item from their bodies in each of the three cycles, Tom hopes to kill at least 18 people to complete the Number of the Beast. In his spare time, Tom is also part of a Snuff Film operation where women are murdered for the pleasure of paying customers. Even in his personal life Tom continues to be a monster, psychologically tormenting and sexually assaulting his own fiancée to show his power over her. Deciding to toy with Jim Renart, the lead investigator on the Monkey Maker case, Tom murders Jim's partner in cold blood and lures Jim to a trap designed to make him kill his pregnant wife, before Tom eventually goes on a shooting spree.
  • The Very Secret Diary: Tom Riddle, aka Voldemort, or rather the part of his soul stuck in a diary, is a vicious and gleeful sociopath. He charms the 11-year-old Ginny Weasley into fully trusting him and encourages her to feed him her emotions and help him get stronger. Voldemort gradually starts to control her body and use her to let loose the basilisk, hoping for the latter's attacks on students to end fatally. After Ginny sees through his lies and Gaslighting, Voldemort drops his act and threatens her and her friends and family, forcing her to obey him when she's begging him to stop. Voldemort lures Ginny into the Chamber of Secrets, planning for her to die there and for him to restore his bodily form, and delights in Ginny's despair as he promises to kill the people she loves.
  • Myst: The Book of Ti'ana: A'gaeris is a master manipulator, bitter over his expulsion from the Guild of Writers for allegedly stealing a book. He turns that resentment into action when he frames Veovis, an innocent man, for murder and then convinces him to turn against the D'ni empire. Together, they commit terrorist acts, culminating in the release of a plague that kills nearly a million people. But even that was not enough to satisfy A'gaeris's lust for revenge, so he and Veovis sent corpses through to other Ages to ensure that any refugees would also be infected. A'gaeris ordered Veovis to write an Age where they could rule over the native population. Veovis refused, and A'gaeris promptly murdered him in cold blood.
  • Jonah Greenway is a hotshot EMT introduced as an innocuous side character before his true evil nature is revealed. Having been hailed as a hero for saving a bus driver as a child, Jonah became addicted to being praised and decided to engineer events so he would always be seen in that light. Performing malpractice on patients in order to become lauded for "saving" them when they flatline, Jonah leaves a trail of corpses across several cities before arriving in Los Angeles. Continuing his twisted actions, Jonah stops the hearts of anyone he can on his hunt for glory, taking the lives of a motorist, a teenage boy, and 9-1-1 dispatcher Claudette Collins in the process. Kidnapping Hen and Chimney when they become wise to his actions, Jonah shows no remorse for all the death he's caused to satisfy his ego and claims that he is on the same level as a god, deciding who lives or dies. After torturing Chimney to the point of flatlining twice as a display of his "heroism", Jonah's only response to his eventual arrest for the murders is a wide, smug grin.
  • Desperation 2006 adaptation: Tak is a demonic entity who spreads death wherever he goes. Unearthed from the Desperation mining shaft and killing everybody inside, Tak slaughtered the entire town afterwards before going on a decades-long killing spree, which included destroying a bar in Vietnam that led to 87 deaths. Tak would eventually return to Desperation and possess the town's sheriff Collie Entragian, using him to frame nearby travelers for marijuana possession and abuse them to his liking, even killing some for fun, including a little girl. With David Carter destined by God to stop him, Tak possesses his mother in an attempt to kill him and the rest of the escaped prisoners.
  • Norman Osborn, aka the Green Goblin is the power-hungry CEO of Oscorp. After being removed from his company Norman, desires to regain his power and make Peter Parker his heir. To this end, Norman creates an explosion that turns himself into the Green Goblin. The goblin attacks Wilson Fisk's party and deduces Peter Parker's identity as Spider-Man, threatening to expose his secret to the world. Allying himself with Boliver Trask, Norman creates Sentinels and AI to hunt down the mutants and anyone defending them. Spider-Man is then transported to a Bad Future where Norman has wiped out the human race—including Peter's Aunt May—along with every mutant. The remaining survivors were injured and forced into slave labor. When Peter and Kitty Pryde try to deactivate Master Mold, Norman rigs the AI to explode. When Norman's plans go south, he programs the Sentinels to hunt down every mutant and human defending them, and initiates the cores to melt and self-destruct, endangering countless lives. Realizing that Gwen Stacy has been holding Peter back from his potential, the Green Goblin kidnaps Gwen and attempts to kill her. Norman, resurrected in the final volume and Demoted to Dragon to Apocalypse, clones himself to regain Oscorp while he causes havoc and plans to betray Sinister and Apocalypse when their plan fails.
  • Alice in Chains' "I Stay Away": The boy with the jar of flies maliciously unleashes his pets on a traveling circus, causing chaos and destruction amidst the unassuming performers, including a lion tamer being mauled to death and a daredevil motorcyclist losing control of his bike and crashing violently. Snapping the trapeze artist's rope midair and turning the clowns violently on each other, the boy's machinations cause even the blindfolded knife thrower to accidentally kill his partner. Implied to be Death itself, the boy watches admirably over the entire circus burning down, while petting the jar for a job well done.
  • Evelyn Evelyn: As the album details the hellish childhood and life of Eva and Lynn Deville, these two stand out as the worst:
  • Nora Vass is a ruthlessly ambitious Collective officer whose enforcement of their brutal laws towards clones has allowed her to become the highest-ranking clone in the Collective. Assigned to oversee several facilities, Vass sends a brutal clone to inspect them and execute anyone not following Collective law, with at least one facility having its entire staff slaughtered. When a psychotic GeoFFRy unit threatens to release sensitive information unless Vass sends him people to kill, Vass is only briefly reluctant before agreeing to send people for it to butcher. Continuing this method of execution for years, Vass eventually started employing a horrific neurotoxin which zombifies its victims to make the deaths look like accidents. Vass used underhanded methods to become High Admiral and got her predecessor decommissioned, coldly admitting that she would do the same to anyone to advance her position. In this role, Vass threatened any insubordinate or incompetent clones with execution, betrayed the GeoFFRy unit by ordering it destroyed, and participated in a scheme to poison a community's water supply, resulting in numerous deaths.
  • The Dragon's Son, as shown in Bloodlines, is better known to history as Wallachian warlord Vlad Țepeș. Making a Romani settlement the latest target of his army's rampage, Vlad has them all slaughtered except for the grandmother of a girl he killed personally, so she may spread word of his hegemonic ambition. When the old lady refuses, Dracula torments her with a vision of his bloody conquests that have left thousands—even children—dead by his signature impalement method, before revealing himself as a vampiric Daevite lord bent on enchaining the continent to the Daevas' ghoulish reign. When the elderly woman resorts to singing "On Mount Golgotha" in hopes of stopping him, Vlad kills her and then 50 of his own soldiers to try finishing the cursed song in blood, claiming his own life in the frenzy after dragging nearly a hundred people to the grave with him by his final bloodbath alone.
  • come on now, baby girl: Petyr Baelish is the owner of a strip club, but also secretly a drug dealer and the manager of the porn app Mockingbird. Among other things, Mockingbird has videos of actual gang rapes that Baelish pays a group of high school students to commit and film, including a so-called cherry section for which virgin girls are specifically picked as victims. It's revealed that there have been thirteen victims of the "cherry section", all of whom were too ashamed or frightened to speak up openly for a long time. Although the hired perpetrators of the rapes are finally sent behind bars, Jaime and Brienne can't prove that Baelish is behind Mockingbird. Even with the rumors surrounding him, Baelish is completely unrepentant.
  • What If Darth Vader Joined the Rebel Alliance (link): Emperor Palpatine uses Vader to hunt Jedi and subjugate the worlds which rebel against his Empire. Brushing off Vader the latter he confronts him about slavery under his rule, Palpatine eventually sends him to Exegol to show Vader the power of the Sith. After Vader makes his treachery known by assisting the Rebels in sabotaging the Death Star, Palpatine becomes obsessed with killing his former apprentice and continues to tighten his grip on the galaxy. When the now fully reformed Anakin challenges him to a Duel to the Death, Palpatine faces him and declares how he will destroy both the Rebellion and the new Jedi Order.
  • The Devil's Apprentice: Aziel Stofeles is a devil so wicked that he is dissatisfied with the current, "mild" state of Hell. Disgusted that Lucifer has chosen the kindhearted human Filip as his successor, Aziel hatches a plot to usurp the throne, forcing a young demon boy to poison Lucifer before locking the boy in an abandoned church cellar with a mind-shattering spectre to waste away. Once Lucifer is on the brink of death, Aziel attempts to murder Filip so he can seize power and establish a regime under which all good-natured devils are wiped out, leaving only the most depraved stock alive.
  • Cold War (2005): Colonel Barinsky is the treacherous chief of the KGB who plots to overthrow Soviet President Mikhail Gorbachev and establish a Stalinist dictatorship. When nuclear scientist turned whistleblower Sonya Yakovleva tries to reveal Barinsky's scheme to the head of the Presidential Guard Alexander Grushkov and President Gorbachev, Barinsky lures American journalist Matthew Carter to their secret meeting site and convinces the President that Grushkov and Yakovleva are CIA-affiliated traitors who hired Carter to kill him, intending to have all three of them framed for high treason and sentenced to death. After Barinsky brings Carter and Grushkov to the political prison in Lubyanka to have his agents beat the confession out of them, he drugs and tortures Sonya for information, later taking her to Chernobyl to force her to activate the nuclear bombs he's been secretly making. When Grushkov tells the President to visit the Chernobyl nuclear plant, Barinsky orders Sonya's death and stages the reactor meltdown, both to kill President Gorbachev and cover his tracks, kidnapping Carter to frame him for the meltdown and leaving Sonya, many innocent workers, and his own men to die in the plant. When Barinsky finds out that Gorbachev survived, he starts an all-out Military Coup and kidnaps the President to blackmail him with nukes into "voluntarily" resigning on camera. After Carter foils the coup and saves Gorbachev, Barinsky's last spiteful act is to try and take millions of Soviet citizens with him by detonating a nuke in the middle of Moscow.
  • Ramirez is Starkweather's right-hand brute, who controls the gangs of Carcer City and uses them to put on "good shows" for the snuff business. Introduced strangling a goon to death just to establish his dominance, Ramirez threatens the rest of his men with death on a regular basis. His personal gang of Wardogs kidnaps Cash's family to use as bait and threatens to kill them one by one, and Ramirez cruelly orders his men to sever Cash's genitals when they find him, proving himself to be the most sadistic "star" of Starkweather's films.
  • Gary Schaffer, the corrupt chief of the Carcer City Police Department, takes bribes from Starkweather, and is responsible for making sure that all atrocities committed in his snuff films are covered up. Schaffer runs the CCPD in the most cruel way possible, with his underlings enjoying beating up and murdering the homeless on a regular basis, and letting some of the cops "star" in Starkweather's films. Not above sending his own men to eliminate Cash when he becomes a nuisance to Starkweather, it is Schaffer's greed that led to the horrors of Carcer City going unpunished for so long.
  • Skul: The Hero Slayer: Emperor Alexander of Carleon is a genocidal racist and eugenicist, who is obsessed with maintaining the "purity" of humanity, and thus seeks nothing less than the complete extermination of the Demon race. To this end, Alexander conducts horrific experiments with Dark Quartz, sometimes on his own citizens and servants, to create Living Weapons to facilitate his plans. When the First Hero's young son accidentally stumbles upon one of these experiments, Alexander pitilessly has the boy killed and frames the Demon King for the murder, driving the First Hero mad with grief and making him all too willing to spearhead Carleon's invasion of the Demon Kingdom. After the invasion, Alexander has many of the captured Demons harvested to create a Chimera to serve as an "avatar" of Carleon's goddess, with his ultimate plan being to use the Demon King's blood to turn himself into a god-like entity who will obliterate the Demons. Following the First Hero's defeat at Skul's hands, Alexander retrieves his barely-alive body and uses his blood to create an army of Super-Soldier clones for a second attack on the Demon Kingdom. When Skul confronts Alexander, the latter mocks the First Hero for how easily manipulated he was, and after being defeated twice he attempts to destroy the entire Demon Castle and everyone in it with a Dark Quartz bomb, purely out of spite.
  • Among Us: The Full Story (link): The Imposter is a sadistic alien figure from outer space who, after infiltrating the Skeld, the murders Cyan before shapeshifting into him and removing his corpse. After that, the Imposter would start to gruesomely murder multiple crewmates and frame the murder on Red, resulting in the latter getting ejected into space. Using the crewmates' incompetence as an advantage, the Impostor would sabotage the Skeld's oxygen system and leave the last two survivors to slowly die in pain as he slowly comes to hunt them down.
  • A Villager's Night series (link): Steve, launching an attack on Hehr's village, maims a dozen villagers, slaughters several others, kills the Iron Golem, and kidnaps the village's workers. Locking the kidnapped villagers in his dungeon, Steve forces them to make items for him in exchange for emeralds and kills a female Villager who fails to give him an item by bathing her in lava. When Larr rebels against Steve by destroying a lantern he had to make for him, Steve kills Larr's brother Beehr out of spite by giving Beehr a lava bath.
  • The Stickworld: The Scientist/Big Brother is well known for his hatred of magicians due to their ability to compete with his immense strength and speed, and always tries to exterminate them, even as they make up more than half the population. He uses a machine to make Middle Brother incredibly stupid, before punching Little Brother just hard enough to make him lose his memories and later tries to kill him when the latter remembers and begs him to stop. Having gotten rid of his brothers, the Scientist creates increasingly dangerous stickbots to kill magicians before building a Humongous Mecha designed to kill Overseer Lolph. When that plan fails, he goes into hiding, tricks Dave and Justice into fighting stick figures fused with nanomachines, and nearly has Justice killed just as she reciprocates Dave's feelings. Later on, he uses the nanobots on himself, fully intending to punch every magician into extinction, as well as anyone else who refuses to bow to him.
  • DEAD DAYS: While Bindo Kwak is a Tragic Villain, these villains from his past turn out to be much worse than him and are all responsible for the zombie apocalypse:
    • Jongmin Kwak seems like a well-meaning family friend of Bindo, before revealing to be a manipulative and ambitious member of Goldenbird, who only cares about himself and money. Working under Dr. Kwak in the experimentation on children, Jongmin murdered the latter and framed it on Bindo to move up in Goldenbird, promptly abandoning Bindo for the streets with plans to use him for later. Opening up Goldenbird’s Slave Project thirty years later, Jongmin creates Label D, an addictive energy drink marketed to children and workers which he sells for free, hiding a mind-controlling plant, all with plans to brainwash the entire world's population into becoming mindless zombies who will bend to their will. In an attempt to find the perfect zombie, Jongmin decides to use Bindo and his daughter Yoonji, orchestrating the death of Bindo’s wife to leave them on financial straits and using Yoonji's terminal illness to convince Bindo to work for him, before having him drugged and giving him a voodoo ritual to have him control zombies, callous over the fact he’ll be turned into an incubus and forced to sexually harass women. Spreading Label D to kick-start a presumed Zombie Apocalypse, Jongmin promptly betrays Goldenbird for his own benefit, confident they’ll cover up his actions while he kidnaps Yoonji and experiments on her to become the perfect zombie.
    • Dr. Kwak, Bindo’s father, is a deplorable member of Goldenbird who is responsible for the events now, despite being long dead. Having given the role to spearhead The Slave Project, Dr. Kwak experimented on several children, killing them before deciding to create an heir to experiment on. To this end, Dr. Kwak rapes his niece Eunhee, and experiments on his son, Bindo, when he is born. Becoming livid over his funding getting revoked, Dr. Kwak begins torturing his son and the other children, burning their eyes out and leaving them starved and disfigured as he forces them to beg up for money on the streets. He also takes his anger out on Eunhee, frequently abusing and raping her violently, in one instance directly in front of Bindo.
    • The unnamed head of Goldenbird had secretly led a conspiracy for decades to attempt to control the entire world and be worshipped as gods. Having researched Haitian Voodoo and mind controlling plants, she attempted to initiate the Slave Project to brainwash the entire world's population into a zombie-like state to bend to their will, giving Dr. Kwak the funding to try it. Decades later, scheming to cut the population down, the head had collaborated and singed off on Jongmin’s plan to remake The Slave Project, giving him a seat at the table after injecting a board member with a brain-melting drug and sending him out to be listed as dementia ridden. Despite only appearing twice, her actions are what led to the zombie apocalypse, resulting in many causalities and suffering across the nation.

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ACW Unofficial Wiki Curator for Complete Monster from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#13709: May 5th 2024 at 9:28:03 AM

Also, a slight rewrite to one of my older ones (mainly potholes):

  • Abattoir, real name Arnold Etkar, born Arnold Etchison, is a psychopathic, prolific murderer who mainly targets family members, believing them to be evil, and believes he will eat their souls. In his second appearance, as part of a ritual he believes will grant him great power, Abattoir and his associates blow up the Gotham Bridge as a train is crossing, which would have killed thousands. Despite being captured yet again, Abattoir is one of the residents of Arkham Asylum who are broken out by Bane. After killing a family, he goes after his cousin Graham, hijacking a bus Graham and 12 orphans are on, planning to kill them all. Batman saves them, but Abattoir escapes, kidnapping the child of Clayface III and Lady Clayface to force them to help him. Abattoir eventually kidnaps Graham, and places him in a sadistic Death Trap, which eventually results in Graham suffering an agonizing, hours-long death. Even as a spirit, his evil lives on; in Jean-Paul Valley's old armor, he tries to induce a miscarriage in his niece to possess the unborn baby's body.

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Awesomekid42 Since: Jul, 2012
#13710: May 5th 2024 at 10:51:00 AM

Here;s a write-up for Chara alone since it looks like Frisk is getting cut.

  • HalaCG's Undertale song "Genocide": Chara is exempt of any of their morally ambiguous traits, becoming a bloodthirsty, wrathful sadist looking to make the world burn for thrills. Having been awakened through Frisk's bloodlust, Chara gleefully assists them in wiping out the Underground, coercing Frisk into distrusting all monsters and to forget their past so that they can "make them all bleed". After the two's rampage throughout the Underground, Chara goes on to destroy the world, murdering Frisk when they refuse to go along with it.

Edited by Awesomekid42 on May 14th 2024 at 2:13:43 AM

ACW Unofficial Wiki Curator for Complete Monster from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#13711: May 5th 2024 at 11:31:23 AM

Please add to the Drafts.

EDIT:

Edited by ACW on May 5th 2024 at 2:52:32 PM

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LarryT I’ll take a potato chip… and EAT IT! from the Eldritch Ocean Abyss Since: Aug, 2023
I’ll take a potato chip… and EAT IT!
#13712: May 6th 2024 at 5:29:09 AM

On Monster.Music this entry appears twice, both under The Stupendium folder and under D for Dan Bull

Edited by LarryT on May 6th 2024 at 6:44:09 AM

In honor of Akira Toriyama
ACW Unofficial Wiki Curator for Complete Monster from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#13713: May 6th 2024 at 8:51:09 AM

That's deliberate. Once under Stupendium, once under Dan.

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Bullman "Cool. Coolcoolcool." Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
"Cool. Coolcoolcool."
#13714: May 6th 2024 at 9:11:42 AM

Yeah, it is a collab that was released for both of their channels. So, it makes sense that it is listed under both artists.

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Remnant43 The Salesman’s Stolen Mask from In Your Walls Since: Sep, 2020 Relationship Status: Star-crossed
The Salesman’s Stolen Mask
#13716: May 6th 2024 at 1:38:48 PM

It looks like most of y’all approved of the Raven Beak image for the Metroid page, so I’ll go ahead and add it to the drafts.

Also, added a small link to Samus Returns at Raven Beak's entry, since that is technically his first appearance and it's where the image originates from.

Edited by Remnant43 on May 6th 2024 at 4:46:10 AM

Balls idk
miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#13717: May 6th 2024 at 1:55:37 PM

Did you change the picture in the sandbox. That isnt allowed. We have to go through image pickin for changing a page image.

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
Bullman "Cool. Coolcoolcool." Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
"Cool. Coolcoolcool."
#13718: May 6th 2024 at 1:57:48 PM

Yeah I like the image but we can't change the current until it goes through IP first.

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Remnant43 The Salesman’s Stolen Mask from In Your Walls Since: Sep, 2020 Relationship Status: Star-crossed
The Salesman’s Stolen Mask
#13719: May 6th 2024 at 2:11:29 PM

Screw it, here’s a small rewrite for Dark Samus' entry.

Current:

  • Dark Samus, psychopathic yet cunning, is the primary villain of the trilogy, as a recurring boss in the second game and the Big Bad in the third. Starting off as the titular Metroid Prime in the first game, a Metroid vastly mutated by the substance Phazon, it is defeated by Samus and apparently killed, but uses one of her suits and DNA to reconstruct itself in her form with sapience. Now known as Dark Samus, she travels to the planet Aether to consume the Phazon on the planet and physically stabilize herself. She raids a Space Pirate colony on the planet and kills those in her way, and when Samus arrives on the planet, Dark Samus tries to have her killed at every given opportunity. Defeated and left for dead in a collapsing dimension, Dark Samus still survives and reforms in a Space Pirate ship, killing a third of the crew and forcing the rest under her control. She raids the G.F.S. Valhalla, kills its entire crew, and steals Aurora Unit 313 to control Phazon and the planet Phaaze. Dark Samus infects three planets with Phazon and almost infects a fourth, only stopped by Samus and three other bounty hunters. Dark Samus takes the opportunity to plant Phazon seeds inside the four of them, leading to the corruption and deaths of the other three. Samus herself almost succumbs to corruption while trying to defeat Dark Samus.

I think the beginning is unnecessary and doesn't flow well, on top of Metroid Prime's origins being kind of irrelevant since that's basically a whole different character.

  • Dark Samus is a cunning, yet psychopathic being born from the remains of Metroid Prime and given sapience after fusing with one of Samus' suits, using the DNA within to reconstruct herself as a shadowy clone of Samus herself. Dark Samus travels to the planet Aether to consume the Phazon on the planet and physically stabilize herself. She raids a Space Pirate colony on the planet and kills those in her way, and when Samus arrives on the planet, Dark Samus tries to have her killed at every given opportunity. Defeated and left for dead in a collapsing dimension, Dark Samus still survives and reforms in a Space Pirate ship, killing a third of the crew and forcing the rest under her control. She raids the G.F.S. Valhalla, kills its entire crew, and steals Aurora Unit 313 to control Phazon and the planet Phaaze. Seeking to spread Phazon throughout the cosmos and corrupt the entire universe, Dark Samus infects three planets with Phazon and almost infects a fourth, only to be stopped by Samus and three other bounty hunters. Dark Samus takes the opportunity to plant Phazon seeds inside the four of them, leading to the deaths of the other three and Samus herself almost succumbing to the corruption.

Balls idk
Remnant43 The Salesman’s Stolen Mask from In Your Walls Since: Sep, 2020 Relationship Status: Star-crossed
The Salesman’s Stolen Mask
#13720: May 6th 2024 at 2:11:56 PM

[up][up]Anyone got a link to the IP thread?

Balls idk
miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#13721: May 6th 2024 at 2:17:39 PM

[up]Though I should note it only allows 60 threads at a time and is now full. So wait for a few to close (I recommend helping eith the ip decisions that are happening now as that will expediate the time)

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#13722: May 6th 2024 at 2:35:52 PM

So I heard Randall returned on Monsters at Work. I wonder if this will affect his CM status (which I strongly doubt).

Edited by StalkerGamer on May 6th 2024 at 6:36:08 AM

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Lizzid people!
#13723: May 6th 2024 at 2:39:41 PM

That will be discusses in two weeks since the finale just recently came out.

Bullman "Cool. Coolcoolcool." Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
"Cool. Coolcoolcool."
#13724: May 6th 2024 at 7:01:05 PM

Remnant 43: Started a IP thread for Monster.Metroid for you. Hope that is okay. Link.

Edited by Bullman on May 6th 2024 at 9:01:34 AM

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PassingThrough Since: Feb, 2024
#13725: May 7th 2024 at 6:17:31 AM

Good for the rewrite and just wanted to add a bit more character to two of my old ones.

Current:

  • Shigurui: Even in a world where murder for honor is considered noble, these two manage to firmly take the very bleakest moral standpoint:
    • Kogan Iwamoto is a peerless samurai and the heartless head of the Kogan-Ryuu school. When he was younger, Kogan used to show off his techniques by decapitating restrained slaves in the hopes of gaining the right to serve under the shogun family. Kogan's cruelty does not diminish even as decades go on and dementia leaves him functional for at most half a day of the year. Taking the widow of a man he killed as his favorite prostitute, Kogan considers her his property, and when another man sleeps with her, Kogan sexually mutilates both of them out of anger. Viewing his own daughter as a tool to produce a male heir, Kogan wants his best student to rape her to ensure his grandchildren will be skilled samurai, and when she steals his sword, he angrily orders his men to kill her.
    • Tadanaga Tokugawa is a psychopath who uses his position as the younger brother of the shogun to terrorize his people. Regularly violating and murdering the daughters and wives of his retainers, Tadanaga is little more than a Serial Rapist and Serial Killer who is above the law. When one samurai dares to deny Tadanaga's demand to be attended by his wife, Tadanaga forces him to fight to the death against another warrior. He keeps a deformed samurai in his dungeon to rape and cannibalize women while he watches, and sends the shredded body of a girl back to her brother to mock the family. Organizing a tournament in which samurai must fight to the death using real katana instead of traditional wooden bokken, Tadanaga demands the body of one fallen warrior be humiliated by decapitation.

Suggested:

  • Shigurui: Even in a world where murder for honor is considered noble, these two manage to firmly take the very bleakest moral standpoint:
    • Kogan Iwamoto is a peerless samurai and the heartless head of the Kogan-Ryuu school. When he was younger, Kogan used to show off his techniques by decapitating restrained slaves in the hopes of gaining the right to serve under the shogun family. Even as decades go on and dementia leaves him functional for at most half a day of the year, Kogan remains a twisted parody of a warrior who demands his students kill innocents to display their own sword techniques. Claiming the widow of one of his victims he killed as his favorite prostitute, Kogan considers her his property, and when another man sleeps with her, Kogan sexually tortures both of them out of anger. Even seeing his own daughter as a tool to produce a male heir, Kogan desires for his best student to rape her to ensure his grandchildren will be skilled samurai, mutilating a subordinate for suggesting she be seen as a person and when she steals his sword, angrily orders his men to kill her.
    • Tadanaga Tokugawa is a psychopath who uses his position as the younger brother of the shogun to terrorize his people. Regularly violating and murdering the daughters and wives of his retainers, Tadanaga is little more than a Serial Rapist and Serial Killer who is above the law. When one samurai dares to deny Tadanaga's demand to be attended by his wife, Tadanaga forces him to fight to the death against another warrior. Tadanaga also keeps a deformed samurai in his dungeon to rape and cannibalize women while he watches, and delights in sending the shredded body of a girl back to her brother to mock the family. Organizing a tournament in which samurai must fight to the death using real katana instead of traditional wooden bokken just to enjoy the bloodshed, Tadanaga even demands the body of one fallen warrior be humiliated by decapitation.

Mostly just a wording preference but any thoughts on changing? I felt I could make them read better.

Edited by PassingThrough on May 7th 2024 at 9:20:51 AM


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