Nickelodeon All-Star Brawl

And here is the Youtube version of the reveal.

Still feel like they're ignoring obvious picks in favor of more oddball ones.

Like, Azula's a welcome addition, but having her and not Zuko just feels weird to me.

Zuko will return as a DLC character.

In other words, we get Daisy before Luigi for example. Or Funky before Diddy.

In other words the game picked Azula over Zuko, just like Ozai and the Avatar fanbase in general.

I wouldn't go that far with the fanbase. I feel like Zuko has a lot more fan love than Azula.

What bizzaro world do you live in where Zuko isn’t more popular then Azula?

I always thought they were about the same, but i guess Zuko has redemption arc going for him.

Azula barely edges him out on the sense of having lightning control AND being a villain. In the latter case her only competition for the spot is Ozai....and either he is too serious for the game, or Azula is just straight up better at conveying a powerful fire-bender.

Similar to the Kazuya-Heihachi dichotomy in smash and why we got Kaz and not Hei in that game.

Edited by fasoman1996 on Oct 7th 2023 at 12:26:01 PM

I'm personally more baffled on why they removed Toph, with her, we could have the 4 elements represented.

Maybe they didn't want to put in the effort of making her competitively good.

Edited by MightyMatilda on Oct 7th 2023 at 9:39:47 AM

I find it weird that they got rid of Lincoln but kept Lucy, personally.

Wait, they got rid of Lincoln? They removed the actual main character and kept a side character? What is it with these franchises' main characters not actually appearing in this cross-over fighter?

When does that happen in other games?

Sorry, I meant the franchises being represented in this one game. As far as I know, most other crossover games don't do this.

Edited by Dracoblade on Oct 7th 2023 at 7:54:39 AM

The ironic situation where the biggest topic concerning future Smash is the shitstorm over the roster cuts, and this game decided to go down that route on game 2.

According to some sources from leaks, the devs planned to cut 5 characters. Catdog, Toph, Shredder, Lincoln and Sandy

Shredder was going to be turned into a boss, Catdog is too much of a buggy mess and they didn't bother, Lincoln was the least popular character last game. Sandy got swapped out with Squidward and Plankton. Toph is the only one that has no official reasoning we can try and guess.

PTM, Leo, Mikey, Hugh, Helga and Oblina were actually meant to come back, but Nick had apparently rushed the devs to meet a 2023 release. A shame really.

Hopefully they can put them in as DLC.

could we ever get a nickelodeon ultimate that brings evryone back?

It's so odd to drop the DLC characters. You would assume they were worked on during this game's development and would just be carried over.

The Beavers look absolutely wild, man. Not to mention like a blast to play once you figure them out. Definitely going to try to pick them up once the game comes out.

Oh no, they have Hidden Missles. My Mv C trauma is coming back. Granted it's not as bad, but still.

The new characters and game mechanics are pretty damn cool, but the cut characters do sting a bit. I have heard one of the main reasons such cuts happened (aside from the aforementioned rushing by Nick themselves) was that Ludocity switched to Unity for the sequel. It has been stated in interviews that they had to remake everything from scratch for this game, though it makes me wonder how much time would have been saved if they had just built upon the old engine.

Especially after the shit Unity just recently went though recently, even the devs themselves said working with Unity was a pain, so it pretty much sounds like a fruitless effort in the end. Either way though, the current product does look pretty damn good compared to the first entry at least.

Edited by Rinsankajugin on Oct 9th 2023 at 3:59:24 AM

@fasoman: if I had to guess a reason to cut Toph, it’s probably because they saw how having platforms wherever you want made Steve in smash bros broken, and promptly decided trying to balance Toph beyond being a Little Mac type would be far too time consuming.

And here’s Gerald! His moveset seems a lot bigger than I was expecting.

Anyone with the Dedede crouch is automatically great in my eyes.