My Hero Academia

I honestly forgot the implication behind Quirks was a virus of all things. All that did was remind of a Self-Insert fic I read where the SI, a sentient Quirk ala Dark Shadow, found out that the day Quirks awoke was the same day we got COVID-19, and him being pissed off we got a shitty virus while they got superpowers.

Edited by RebelFalcon on May 2nd 2024 at 1:40:04 PM

Quirks being theoretically related to a virus is what drove Overhaul to "functional" insanity after all in his youth.

That and we got plenty of rodent imagery to go with the idea.

(Glancing at Nezu in suspicion.)

That said, in such a case, then the quirk-virus must have been the most successful virus on the planet, since almost all of Earth's population are active carriers of it at this point. Even some of the other animals too.

Edited by Trainbarrel on May 2nd 2024 at 7:45:53 PM

I thought that was a theory?

Granted, is the virus natural or is it the product of mad science?

I don't think that's a question that'll be answered soon because if it was man-made that leads to the Unfortunate Implications of a chinese made virus causing havoc in society for reasons only known to the PRC scientists of the time (and politicians, because of course).

Not to mention it would prove Overhaul and Humarize "right" in the sense that getting superpowers made people less human than before and of course what that would imply for All Might and Izuku if they are the amongst the last of the "clean" humans.

Hmmm fair enough.

But on this topic, it would certainly make the Quirk singularity theory more sinister IF it was man made but even as a natural virus it's certainly eyebrow raising.

Edited by RedHunter543 on May 3rd 2024 at 2:32:38 AM

At least eight percent of the human genome came from viruses, so I disagree that more viral DNA would make us less "human".

Huh, the more you know.

Man, Overhaul would have a fit with that kind of information.

I doubt Horikoshi knew about that, but Knowing it makes Overhaul look more like a crackpot.

It’s likely that rodents became the carriers later, but people being born with quirks was already a thing. We even saw tons of rodents in AFO backstory back when he was born and trying to survive; and their mother already had a quirk but it wasn’t noticeable as anything but a skin disease.

Funny enough, isn't that something that was revealed in one of the middle Jojo parts (I think 5) about where Stands come from? Bring viruses from a meteorite or something? It's not exactly a popular explanation, and I don't think it applies post-SBR, but it was to the old Canon.

Sorta. It was revealed that the "Stand Arrows" had their arrowheads constructed from a meteorite that crashed 50,000 years ago and was dug up in 1978, and that the meteorite carried with it a virus that killed those it touched, the survivors developing Stands. However, it was demonstrated there are people who developed Stands independent of the arrow, with no indication anyone in their family touched it, and many of the Joestar's awoke their Stands in response to Dio getting hit with the arrow, it confirmed by Araki to be Johnathan's body reaching out to those of the Joestar Bloodline and awakening their Stands hoping they'd stop Dio, basically being a distress signal, hence why Josuke awoke his as a little kid despite having no contact with the rest of the family at that point. So it's hard to tell if Stands are solely the result of the virus, or if Stands already existed and it was just the latent possession of one that let you survive the virus.

Edited by RebelFalcon on May 2nd 2024 at 6:10:30 AM

Maybe everyone has the virus, but it's dormant in most.

The Stand Arrow can trigger it for most, but there's still a possibility of it awakening on its own.

I mostly interpreted that as stands existing apart from the virus/arrow, but exposure to the virus is what triggers the stand to "activate" rather than staying dormant. I don't think it's ever stated whether there's a natural, non-virus way to awaken a stand, but personally I like the idea of being a Hamon practitioner making it more likely for the stand to wake up on its own, if only because it ties that aspect of series together more.

I think it's likely that everyone has the virus but not everyone can survive awakening their stand, which is what nearly happened to Koichi if I recall correctly.

Edited by RebelFalcon on May 2nd 2024 at 11:55:01 AM

Back to quirks.

If the quirks are a virus and is gradually and systematically wiping out the individuals with the incompatible genetics which renders it dormant rather than activated, by allowing the genes of its preference to assume dominance over any of the offspring in the case of one quirkless and one quirked individual, then may it be safe to presume that the quirkless-state as a whole may vanish after Izuku's generation considering the geometric spread and lack of quirkless individuals to keep that dormancy-gene in circulation?

Yes.

And in that case, what happens if it has no more hosts to spread into?

Die out?

Well since this is a super hero story, I'd assume the virus would just mutate more and more within the quirk users and result in the quirk singularity theory.

That honestly sounds more and more like how toxic metals builds up in a food-chain until it becomes unsustainable and lethally toxic where it ends up, aka in the apex predator.

Only at a much more accelerated rate and with superpowers.

Unless they can make the human body sturdier to handle all that power somehow.

Yep.

Which is why, I think that in case Shigaraki's body isn't destroyed in the fight due to being too powerful to exist, it can be studied by the field of science in order to figure out how to naturally strengthen the human body in order to cope with the "Quirk Singularity" and prevent the breakdown of the human body it would bring with it.

I am not talking about turning everyone into that thing from "Akira", but just gradually increase the durability and flexibility of the human body just to cope with the demands the future quirks will potentially demand from them.

And no, I do not suggest using the body like how Overhaul reverse-engineered Rewind by his way of studying Eri, but in a more humane manner, with both Shigaraki's approval and insurance from the government that he won't be put through anything inhumane.

Just a thought.

I do think Shiggy is going to come out of this okay. He'll most likely be in jail once AFO is defeated.

And would Deku also acknowledge to fix society's flaws with others?

Nah, Shiggy is gonna keep being a hero to other villains.

In fact, AFO assuming direct control over Shiggy just solidifies my belief that Shiggy will survive the events of the story.