It's because most humor specifically marketed to adults is raunchy garbage with lots of sex, tasteless jokes, and cursing. Cartoons that are nominally for children but with clever jokes that only adults will get, that is good adult humor. Such as a lot of the Animaniacs jokes.
I don't really mind raunchy adult comedies if they're good, but keep in mind that what people are complaining about is the fact that adult animation in the west is only ever that. It gets stale. Is there nothing else about the adult world that can be explored?
I'm not making any definitive statements on the movie's quality or anything, I just understand why people are skeptical.
edited 16th Mar '16 8:51:56 PM by wehrmacht
The script from what I gather seems...pretty goddamn terrible.
"All you Fascists bound to lose."I admit, this doesn't really appeal to me. While I'm a big opponent of the Animation Age Ghetto, I don't think playing the same notes that adult cartoons always hit is the way to break it.
edited 16th Mar '16 9:27:46 PM by BigMadDraco
Okay that is just sad. From what I saw the animation in that trailer was actually pretty good but that is the only good thing about that movie that I have seen so far.
The humor was...damn near non-existant. The death scenes were unnerving and really unnessacary. And the swearing just seemed to act as padding...
I don't need to read no fucking script to know that this is nothing but more fodder for the Animation Age Ghetto, when it comes to stuff aimed at adults. Fuck this...
New Web Browser, same old Shokew.WOW-that leaked script does not give me confidence. I'm assuming they change SOME things, hopefully the...AWFUL puns(seriously, you market something for adults and FILL it with puns) but the trailer looked word for word from the script. This flick is gon' BOMB!
I liked that one character was a self-proclaimed King of Puns!
But the main assumption is that the Animation Age Ghetto exists for any reason except simple economic stats. Shit that busts the AAG doesn't sell, and there's no one to blame for that but the consumers.
Can't argue with that, honestly. Damn consumers (like ourselves and myself, because I'm just as guilty!)... We haven't truly learned a thing... Better yet, we've refused to truly learn a thing, which is much more sad.
What originality in Western Animation is there... That complacent beings seek?
Yeah. Some of Zero's dialogue quotes from Megaman Zero 3 fit perfectly here with what I'm trying to add to this conversation. This once, anyway.
edited 17th Mar '16 9:22:31 AM by Shokew
New Web Browser, same old Shokew.Well, I wouldn't say that. When the most visible attempts at busting out of the Animation Age Ghetto repulse those who see it, that has a chilling effect. It's like how there were no comic book movies for a long time, because the comic book movies we got were almost all awful (I hope, for everyone else's sake, that I'm the only one here who remembers the first attempt in 1990 at a Captain America movie). The problem was just as much a fault of the people making the movies as it was the audience.
edited 17th Mar '16 9:24:25 AM by 32_Footsteps
Reminder: Offscreen Villainy does not count towards Complete Monster.Yeah, it's hard to convince audiences to buy when the product they're always getting is shit, even when the rare gem comes through. Like, raunchy comedies aren't bad (heck, I love the South Park movie), but to really break out the Animation Age Ghetto you do need more variety in adult animation, and we're just not getting that.
Read the script, and obviously my assumption of this movie being either really hilarious or really dumb has shifted hard towards the latter. I'm disappointed, honestly, you could have done a lot with parodying Pixar/Dreamworks with this idea.
I'm cautiously optimistic about this, to be honest. Apparently Rogen has been trying to get this film made for decades. He said that Heavy Metal was one of his inspirations for it.
Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?Maybe the reasons nobody would greenlight it were both because it has no audience AND that it's a stinker...
edited 17th Mar '16 12:40:19 PM by Grounder
After reading the script, you aren't wrong.
Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?Okay, based on everybody's response to the script: the movie won't go far in making fun of the Pixar formula?
Well that sucks. That is the one thing I had high hopes for in the movie being original. The trailers made it seem it was going to be a deconstruction much in a similar fashion as A Million Ways to Die in the West is to westerns (okay, that is too good of an allegory of how disappointing it will be).
Man, I loved This Is The End and I'm kinda ehhh that this seems like it's gonna be assy to be honest if only because I thought The Interview was also pretty assy
What if thr entire marketing campaign is just totally bullshit and it's actually Pineapple Express 2 though? Now THAT would be some good shit.
I mean, after reading the script, it feels more like some kind of anti-religious bullshit Bill Maher would make. Which is weird because Seth Rogen is Jewish.
Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?Yeah the script was pretty bad from what I have seen so far. The sheer amount of swearing is really unnecessary.
I'm desensitized to swearing, actually. I didn't care. I mean, most people here swear up a fucking storm all the goddamn time anyways. I swear like I use my commas, all the fucking time.
Now what I especially hated in it is (and I'm spoiler marking this) Having two characters that are clear Jewish and Arab stereotypes and making a whole "Israel-Palestine Conflict" gag out of them. I fucking hate when they pull that kind of shit. I mean, that's stooping to the level of Drawn Together: The Movie, and nobody wants to be Drawn Together: The Movie. Then there's the gratuitous sex scene, the over-the-top and crude violent finale, the entire existence of the villainous Douche (which quite frankly disturbs me), and the puns. Good lord, the puns felt painful. The stereotypes were even worse, and the entire section of the weird Mexican bullshit was so offensive to me (I'm half-Mexican) that I skimmed it and didn't lose anything of value.
In short: Fuck. This. Movie.
Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?The only thing that this movie has for it is a pointless amount of shock value. I'm pretty sure this would have worked as a 5 minute spoof on, lets say, college humor, family guy, or south park. Not a full length movie. The idea is shallow, and any enjoyment the audience has for the movie will probably die after about a third of the movie when they played their 2 jokes and have nothing left to offer.
Unironic IronyYeah I quit around near that mark when the massive stereotyping started popping up. I thought I was reading a bad joke rather then a script for a movie...
And yeah I found the Douche character and the jokes made from it really irritating. I have thought adult animation could get away from this type of humor but of course I am wrong...
edited 17th Mar '16 7:10:54 PM by Bleddyn
I just read the pdf of that script you all mentioned . . . Camille Toe.
Camille . . . Toe.
Ca . . . mille . . . Toe.
They fucked it up. They were given a good concept to go with and they fucked it up. I'll just go to my crying corner for getting my hopes up with this movie.
edited 17th Mar '16 7:15:57 PM by BigK1337
If anything thing this film is pretty much just going to just perpetuate the Animation Age Ghetto even more. It's pretty much checking the list on all of the problems with adult animation of today...
Saw this and thought this could be an interesting deconstruction of the "X has emotions" formula (yeah, it parodies Pixar in a way) but really from reading the script and the dialogue in the trailer it just seems like the same old immature comedy that comes from adult animation in the west.
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