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I haven't read the issue in a while it could be more they don't believe in the concept of Hell specifically.

The special also reintroduced Bloodwynd as a "Superman of Hell."

Edited by slimcoder on May 5th 2024 at 8:16:33 AM

In DC Super Hero Girls Supergirl is amazed the humans really do have "a god for everything". She admits that even an entire planet full of science nerds have their superstitions, however, telling the team a spooky bedtime story about comets and Cythonna meant to make misbehaving children like herself stay in line. Stories she obviously doesn't believe, stories she's definitely not scared of.

By contrast, Supergirl is not scared of Doomsday. She blows her cover when Playing Sick to Wonder Woman by rushing off to fight what she thinks is Doomsday.

And I honestly like that better, both the attitude towards the supernatural and towards Doomsday. Krypton doesn't have as many gods as Earth, nor does it pay as much attention to them, but it still has a few dozen. Doomsday is a big powerful alien, but that's all he is. A big powerful alien not unlike those found on Krypton. Remember that prior to Flashpoint Doomsday had actually undergone a Heel–Face Turn. He said he still wanted to kill Superman, but it was more so he just liked fighting Superman at that point because it was fun, going out of his way to save Superman's life when he thought Superman was actually dying. Doomsday didn't compulsively attack everything he recognized as life anymore. He was just a grumpy guy with a crappy childhood who couldn't find enjoyment in anything other than fighting and solitude. A grumpy guy idiots like Lex Luthor and Doctor Psycho wanted to revert into a mindless killing machine(directed away from themselves of course).

Edited by IndirectActiveTransport on May 5th 2024 at 10:24:13 AM

Doomsday is horrifying because he's more than just a big alien.

His entire existence is an atrocity and repsents the worst hubris of society. He was part of a quest to create rhe ultimate lifeform and that man he who headed that decision was a sadistic son of a bitch who repeatedly kept killing a child in the most violent ways possible just to turn it into a monster.

As she puts it, in a society that values the power of science and all the good it does, their variation of ghost stories and myths would be ways how people misused science for their own horrific benefit and to learn what not to do from them.

She must not like the Resident Evil series.

Maybe current Dawn of DC comic book Supergirl wouldn't, but DC Super Hero Girls television show Supergirl likes video games. They are the only nerdy thing she seems to enjoy unironically, and she is a big horror movie fan who cheers on the villains of the features...no that Supergirl wouldn't like Resident Evil either. But she might like a game where she got to hunt down STARS as Nemesis or something.

Yeah, Doomsday's origin story is so fucked up and cool and thematically rich and I always hate how more people don't draw attention to it.

Remember the "Sword of Rao" movement from ''For the Man Who Has Everything?"

Yeah, I do. Moore's original version of that story had a rather different take on the "deepest fantasy" aspect of the Black Mercy, where it did indeed give you everything you wanted in a life, but also seemingly twisted it horribly. So Clark's fantasy life of a world where Krypton never blew up also had some very dark twists, like Jor-El and the Sword of Rao.

That one seemed to have been Superman subconsciously fighting it, as Batman's life seemed happy enough (he married Kathy Kane and had a daughter).

@Blueace I don't see why Supergirl would hate Resident Evil given that series is an aesop on what not to use science for.

Eveline from Resident Evil 7 is basically the RE equivalent of Doomsday.

Edited by windleopard on May 5th 2024 at 12:08:05 PM

Funnily enough I'm pretty sure there was a story about a Kryptonian demon hitchhiking on Clark's ship when Krypton (and its Hell) exploded. A planet's afterlife exploding along with it sure is unique.

The ghost of ancient Kryptonians chewing out the ghosts of Jor-El's contemporaries as they fly through space: WE HAD A GOOD THING GOING YOU SON OF A BITCH, WE HAD A PLANET, WE HAD AN AFTERLIFE, BUT YOU HAD TO GO BLOW IT UP, YOU AND YOUR PRIDE AND YOUR EGO

Ahahahaha what, Krypton's afterlife blew up too!? Lemme guess, Silver Age?

Edited by HamburgerTime on May 5th 2024 at 6:46:31 AM

New 52 actually

Does DC have any Heroic Big Guys who aren't also Flying Bricks or flying firepowers?

Like, I'm talking dudes like Colossus, The Thing, and the Hulk. Those Big guys who're also Big Guys. I think the closest I can think of is Cyborg, but he sometimes has a Jetpack, and all those different weapons.

There's Bork from Power Company.

There is also Batman in some stories. Like he kinda has to be Genius Bruiser strong to tangle with the likes of Bane, gadgets notwithstanding.

That said, i think "Hulk"-style Big Guys tend to be more common as Brutes than as heroic equivalents in DC. Grundy, Ares, Bane, etc.

Edited by MorningStar1337 on May 6th 2024 at 3:47:51 AM

Yeah. I though as much. That's kinda weird, but also makes sense.

It's one of those things you don't realize about DC until you actually look.

Ares probably can fly? I mean, if Diana can anyway.

Robotman?

Robotman is a really good example cause he does not have any other powers or abilities.

He is purely a brute force guy.

Robotman!

I forgot about old Cliff.

Where does he rank in terms of Bruisers? He's probably not too high on the DC hierarchy, but I bet he'd fair pretty well in Marvel.

Atom Smasher perhaps, if you count growing powers.

And anyone would be forgiven for forgetting Tasmanian Devil from Justice League Europe.

There's also Grace Cho from Outsiders as well as Caitlin Fairchild from Gen 13 during the New 52 era. And speaking of New 52, there was also Exoristos from Demon Knights but she never lived past the Middle Ages.

Another JSA member is Citizen Steel who is functionally similar to Colossus.