General Star Wars Animated Series

Just watched Morgan Elsbeth's episodes. Not too many surprises but it did clarify for me why a daughter of Dathomir would be so loyal to the empire even past it's defeat.

The most interesting parts of these episodes were seeing a different culture on Dathomir and the presence of Captain Pellaeon. It really feels like he and Thrawn are running their own version of the Empire within the Empire. An imperial conspiracy to try and run the empire well? That's really fascinating to me.

Gonna start the Barris Offee episodes later today, and that's where my curiosity really lies.

I find it somewhat amusing that Barriss has developed stress lines while working with the Hidden Path, even though she's likely in her late 20s to early 30s at that point. And this is just after we learned that her species can live at least twice as long as humans. Either stress of living in the Dark Times or she's sacrificing part of her life-force as a healer.

Edited by GahmahRaan on May 4th 2024 at 2:36:33 AM

I really enjoyed Barris stories. It really sells to me that the inquisitors would buy the propaganda that the Jedi forced them into a bad situation, at least long enough for the trauma and sunk coast fallacy to set in.

I'm curious on when episode 6 is actually set, because it feels like it's set twenty something years later, but I don't recognise Lyn from any of the established inquisitors?

Fuuuuck they made the Seventh Sister actually scary.

Edit: Did the Barriss episodes first.

Edited by KnownUnknown on May 4th 2024 at 2:59:58 AM

Eh, that's the Fourth Sister. Seventh Sister is discount Barriss Offee.

Ohhh, that's who she is. I should rewatch Kenobi.

Ah, okay. I thought it was just the Seventh Sister under a redesign.

But it makes sense, as she's an antagonist for Barriss to overcome (and ultimately heal) specifically, whereas the Seventh Sister's fate is to get rekt by the Rebels crew.

Anyway, I'm done with Barriss. I'm glad they handled her character the way they did - I was worried about how they would reconcile Inquisitor Barriss with her previous motivations, but they did a phenomenal job. On the other hand, they do so by making barely any mention of her past at all, so it's a bit of a toss up. She mentions a darkness took her, but otherwise she mostly seems like pre-fall Barriss.

And freaking karrabast do they end with with another unanswered question? We'll be asking "did Lyn get Barriss to medical attention?" for the next decade, won't we?

Edited by KnownUnknown on May 4th 2024 at 3:20:31 AM

I would like an expanded look into Barriss' time as an Inquisitor. Perhaps a book. I also want to know if Luminara ever saw Barriss as an Inquisitor since it's still odd that she just got captured instead of killed. Maybe as Barriss' first assignment that gave her the wrong impression of the Inquisitors since unlike the other Jedi, Luminara flat out surrenders when she realizes it's Barriss hunting her. Or if they haven't actually met, maybe the Grand Inquisitor decided to torment Luminara by showing her footage of Barriss as an Inquisitor before executing her.

I also believe that Barriss went out of her way to find Ahsoka after defecting from the Inquisitors. I doubt she would be at peace with herself if she didn't find her dearest friend and apologize for everything she did to her.

She doesn't seem to have been one for long. The impression is that she briefly gave the Empire's spiel a shot and ceased to buy it the moment it became clear it was full of crap. Which makes sense, since the reason she fell in the first place is because she didn't want the Republic to turn into something like the Empire, I just wish that was a tad more explicit.

Edit: Finished Elsbeth's episodes. I love the whole From Nobody to Nightmare vibe they went with for her, it's great.

I love the Elsbeth is one of those characters where you can tell everyone involved wishes they had come up with her earlier, and now they're really pushing to make up for lost time.

Edited by KnownUnknown on May 4th 2024 at 3:58:23 AM

Of course, it's not that long, but I think we can make a little wiggle room to have Luminara at the very least have a role in Barriss' story. That's really what's missing from the three episodes and I think you can have Barriss naively thinking that Luminara is simply being escorted to reeducation and become a fellow Inquisitor... unaware that the Grand Inquisitor intends for Luminara to be executed. And then in a Kick the Dog moment from the Grand Inquisitor, he torments Luminara by revealing how Barriss was forced to kill another Jedi with Force Choke and how she successfully graduated into an Inquisitor. He may even omit the fact that Barriss defected shortly afterwards just to deny Luminara any short of peace with her apprentice.

Also, this set of episodes makes me double sad that Elsbeth and Merrin probably won't ever get to meet onscreen. I've thought before that Merrin is basically the anti-Elsbeth (or vice versa), and this really cements it.

Well, that's what fanfiction is for. I'm sure people are already writing AU fictions where that happens. Or if Barriss meets Ahsoka as an Inquisitor. This fan art is one example.

Barriss fell so hard, that she actually fell back into being a proper Jedi. That's impressive. But that's the beauty of rock bottom. The only way left to go is up.

I was sure she'd run into Ahsoka at some point, but nope. Nothing of her at all.

As for Elsbeth...she doesn't know the meaning of the word, right choice. Also interesting to see that not all the inhabitants of Dathomir were into the Dark Side. Even if Merrin shows that Night Witching doesn't automatically equal evil (though only because she's had no one to teach her how to be a proper Night Witch), it seems the mountain tapped more into the light.

I do wonder how you can apologize to someone for framing them of murder.

Edited by Cortez on May 4th 2024 at 12:54:11 PM

Star Wars: Ahsoka novel did have Ahsoka mentioning that Barriss was ultimately right about the Jedi Order, but was completely wrong in her methods. She would easily forgive Barriss if Barriss admits what she did was wrong. And it's evident that Barriss completely regrets everything about the Jedi Temple bombing and framing Ahsoka, given how she speaks about a darkness that once overtook her.

In the last episode, Barriss mentioned that she's sending the family to an old friend of hers, and this friend is female. Only one character fits that description, and it's surely not Luminara.

Edited by Shadao on May 4th 2024 at 10:36:22 AM

The old order is still getting roasted. But then again, they did majorly screw up. Still, it's sad to see all the good they genuinely tried to do get swept under the rug.

And now we have the Acolyte, with it's lets destroy the Jedi plot, but like, the Jedi have been getting destroyed in and out of universe for years now. They've been deconstructed so much, it's going to be a miracle if there's anything left.

It's a little early to say that's what the Acolyte's plot is. Show's not even out yet.

Hopefully at the start we get to see the Jedi order as what it should have been, and what the dark siders have to resort to to make it start the long fall from grace that finishes with the clone wars.

We meet Palleon whose absence was notable in Rebels considering how much screen time Thrawn got.

I am definitely interested to see what canon does with hin during the rebellion era considering how much his ideology contrasts the rest of the Imperial Navy.

he's like the bad guy's Mon Mothma

We have a trailer for a new Lego What If type special:

Darth Jar Jar.

Thinking about the finale of The Bad Batch, and considering what Project Necromancer actually ended up producing can't help but imagine Palpatine's original intention was to clone a force sensitive Zilo Beast for him to possess and run amok with.

I'd imagine the goal was to have the Zillo Beast's resistance and overall invulnerability added to his body especially considering how he wasn't immune to hos own force lightning, but the idea of Sheev wanting to become the ultimate Sith and a kaiju is hilarious.

Luckily for the galaxy, the end of Project Necromancer v1 set his efforts back, leaving him stuck an improper non-kaiju clone body still weak to his own lightning

Edited by jdeo1997 on May 6th 2024 at 4:49:03 AM

   HIS TIME HAS COME   

I am gonna guess this is what Star Wars what if rumors were actually about…

It’s more beautiful that I could possibly imagine

Edited by EmperorGeode on May 6th 2024 at 3:00:53 AM